J Ryan Stradal and Not-Lager Wines!

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Episode two of season three kicks off with a high five and a hearty welcome to J Ryan Stradal, author of “Kitchens of the Great Midwest” and “The Lager Queen Of Minnesota”.
Shaughn and Ellen have an assignment for you: What’s your splurge wine? We are up for the Barolo and Burgundy but we wanna hear more or…which producers?
And the timer is on for producer David Zwick to chime in as much as possible.
Everyone starts off by taking J Ryan off-brand from his latest book with a rosato from Spain! Then they get into how he came to be interested in wine and smuggling tales of Rhône varieties into California. 
The wine/beer talk ranges wide from oddest wine regions visited to Minnesota wine innovation to how bodies of water help grapes grow to novel writing and Midwest manners. 
Lastly they get into the collaborative with Delectable for a Final Five questions! Tune in for some joy!